I dont even know how to work this out. joe said he didnt even remember what he said. i was telling him what he said on an unusual effect. how was i to know that he'd perma-ban? Description Joe said he didn't even remember what he said. i was telling him what he said on an unusual effect. Joe thought he might of either said Miami lights or nights. all i did was state that he said lights. Please provide any and all evidence (his raffle YouTube annoucement video) Please add any miscellaneous information we should know Is there any private information you wish to provide?